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Various Non-Bald Discussions => Military/Serviceman => Topic started by: tomgallagher on November 15, 2012, 01:06:58 PM

Title: Four Star Generals
Post by: tomgallagher on November 15, 2012, 01:06:58 PM
Isn't it great (sigh) to see that even our 4 star generals can act like high schoolers playing with facebook sometimes..LOL.
Title: Re: Four Star Generals
Post by: D.A.L.U.I. on November 15, 2012, 01:17:21 PM
Two excellent examples that it's not the uniform and rank you wear, but how you wear your uniform and rank that matters.

Second lesson, always maintain a healthy skepticism, in the philosophical sense, concerning all in authority.

Remember that great poem, Ozymandias, and the line, " Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"  Rather like an appropriate caption on the photos of these two, pardon the pun, "gentlemen."
Title: Re: Four Star Generals
Post by: Slynito on November 19, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
Another example of people who have the world by the tail...education, money, power, high esteem, can rub elbows with any leader in the world, but can become the victim of loneliness, lack of curtain attention or perhaps a desire to test his powers in a different way. We are a strange species and always are proving it. 
Title: Re: Four Star Generals
Post by: D.A.L.U.I. on November 19, 2012, 09:13:18 AM
Another example of people who have the world by the tail...education, money, power, high esteem, can rub elbows with any leader in the world, but can become the victim of loneliness, lack of curtain attention or perhaps a desire to test his powers in a different way. We are a strange species and always are proving it. 

For some details on the lives of these guys based only on their military rank--and they're rarely shot or even shot at!:

http://americablog.com/2012/11/should-us-military-elite-live-as-extravagantly-as-us-corporate-elite.html
Title: Re: Four Star Generals
Post by: schro on November 19, 2012, 09:41:55 AM
People from all walks of life are capable of acts that make you proud, and acts that disgust you.
The events of the last few weeks have been a head scratcher to say the least.
Title: Re: Four Star Generals
Post by: tomgallagher on November 19, 2012, 11:41:41 AM
Another example of people who have the world by the tail...education, money, power, high esteem, can rub elbows with any leader in the world, but can become the victim of loneliness, lack of curtain attention or perhaps a desire to test his powers in a different way. We are a strange species and always are proving it. 

For some details on the lives of these guys based only on their military rank--and they're rarely shot or even shot at!:

http://americablog.com/2012/11/should-us-military-elite-live-as-extravagantly-as-us-corporate-elite.html

Full bird Colonel and above is not to be believed and Brigadier on up is like never never land.
Title: Re: Four Star Generals
Post by: Slynito on November 20, 2012, 05:36:40 AM
Yea Tom, when they get up that high in the stratosphere they are politicians. But the chair of the joint chiefs Gen. Pate, was a platoon leader in RVN and we had a general shot out of the blue in his chopper in RVN, can't remember his name...and old 5 star Ike had a g/f in England. But he only saw combat chasing the homeless vets out of WDC along with MacArthur. History is tricky...
Title: Re: Four Star Generals
Post by: Slynito on November 20, 2012, 01:50:49 PM
I just read a Stars & Stripes article that speaks to this thread...  O:O

Do Scandals Undermine Integrity of Officer Corps?

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/11/16/do-scandals-undermine-integrity-of-officer-corps.html?ESRC=marine.nl
Title: Re: Four Star Generals
Post by: D.A.L.U.I. on November 20, 2012, 02:55:11 PM
Had to share this one, a friend remarked that Generals only get in trouble when they can't control their privates.  ;) That works on at least two levels. 
Title: Re: Four Star Generals
Post by: Slynito on November 20, 2012, 03:19:52 PM
Damn if the Privates don't get the blame for everything that goes wrong! :Xo!
Title: Re: Re: Four Star Generals
Post by: RoWilJr on November 20, 2012, 04:57:59 PM
And today's topic @ roll call..... Wait for it.....
Sexual harassment/assault.... Coming from the 3-Star general I work for :-\
Title: Re: Four Star Generals
Post by: tomgallagher on November 20, 2012, 05:23:21 PM
And today's topic @ roll call..... Wait for it.....
Sexual harassment/assault.... Coming from the 3-Star general I work for :-\

Dontcha just love them.
Title: Re: Re: Four Star Generals
Post by: Slynito on November 21, 2012, 09:04:43 AM
And today's topic @ roll call..... Wait for it.....
Sexual harassment/assault.... Coming from the 3-Star general I work for :-\

Was there any giggling, snickering or whispering among those in ranks?  :*))
Title: Re: Re: Four Star Generals
Post by: RoWilJr on November 22, 2012, 06:36:56 AM
Of course...alot of WTFO looks on faces too. You know the old saying, "do as I say, not as I do"... ;)
Title: Re: Re: Four Star Generals
Post by: Slynito on November 22, 2012, 06:50:12 AM
Of course...alot of WTFO looks on faces too. You know the old saying, "do as I say, not as I do"... ;)

WTFO...very funny that y'all are still saying that. Oh yes, I remember how they would settle any confusion by saying do as I say, not as I do.  O:O
Title: Re: Four Star Generals
Post by: Slynito on November 28, 2012, 01:29:45 PM
Navy Fires Two More Commanders

Nov 21, 2012

Stars and Stripes | by Cristina Silva

NAPLES, Italy -- The Navy on Monday dismissed two commanders amid allegations of misconduct, weeks before they were both scheduled to assume new commands.

Capt. Ted Williams was relieved as commander of the amphibious command ship USS Mount Whitney, and Cmdr. Ray Hartman was relieved as commander of the amphibious dock-landing ship USS Fort McHenry, said Cmdr. Marc Boyd, spokesman for U.S. Naval Forces Europe/Africa. The Navy would not describe the nature of the allegations. Both investigations center on personal conduct, Boyd said.

Williams’ investigation began Oct. 26 and is pending adjudication, Boyd said. Williams has been temporarily reassigned to the staff of U.S. 6th Fleet in Naples. He took command of the Mount Whitney in September 2011. Before that, he served as interim executive officer of the USS Eisenhower after then-executive officer Capt. Robert Gamberg was relieved of command.

Capt. Craig Clapperton has since been named the commanding officer of the Mount Whitney. Clapperton had been scheduled to take command of the Mount Whitney in December. His change of command was accelerated because of Williams’ departure.

Clapperton previously served as the executive office of the USS Harry S. Truman. He assumed command of the ship for four days in November 2011 after the death of Capt. Tushar Tembe, according to the Navy.

The allegations against Hartman were officially reported on Saturday, Boyd said. He has been temporarily reassigned to the staff of Destroyer Squadron 60 in Naples pending the results. He took command of the Fort McHenry in May 2011.

The ship’s new commander is Cmdr. Eric Kellum, who previously served as Fort McHenry’s executive officer.

Williams was scheduled to change command on Dec. 6, while Hartman’s change of command had been set for Dec. 12.

Twenty-two other commanders have been relieved of duty by the Navy this year.